Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Do knighthoods and nationalism sit well together?

As a Scot in England I'm really rather worried about the forthcoming elections. I'm not even allowed a vote so I can do nothing to prevent the expected success of the Scottish National Party.

In recent days they've rolled out two of the big guns they're relying on to boost their campaign. One Sir Sean Connery and one Sir George Mathieson.

How curious that these two fervent nationalists so eagerly accepted honours conferred on them by that most curious of institutions, Britain. Does anyone see a problem?

5 Comments:

At 6:50 am , Anonymous Paddy said...

"How curious that these two fervent nationalists so eagerly accepted honours conferred on them by that most curious of institutions, Britain."

No. The Queen actually. Just as she's Queen of Canada (independent), Australia (independent), New Zealand (independent)...

"Does anyone see a problem?"

What problem?

 
At 9:40 am , Blogger Finnieston Crane said...

It's a British honours system, Paddy. He is a Knight Batchelor of the British Empire, one of the oldest honours in the system. The Queen didn't personally decide he ought to receive it either.

I don't think a person who wants to be taken seriously as a nationalist can possibly accept a Knighthood. A bit like a republican saying, "Well, I'm all for the abolition of the monarchy, but while it's around I'll take all the perks it'll throw my way."

 
At 4:29 pm , Anonymous Paddy said...

"It's a British honours system, Paddy. He is a Knight Batchelor of the British Empire, one of the oldest honours in the system. The Queen didn't personally decide he ought to receive it either."

So?

"I don't think a person who wants to be taken seriously as a nationalist can possibly accept a Knighthood."

Why not? Sir Robert Menzies of Australia didn't see any conflict with leading an independent Australia.

Where's the contradiction in believing in independence but also being a Royalist? She's not just Queen of the UK.

"A bit like a republican saying, "Well, I'm all for the abolition of the monarchy, but while it's around I'll take all the perks it'll throw my way.""

Obviously. But who said they were republicans?

 
At 9:22 pm , Anonymous a. nonymous said...

Problem i'm seeing with this election is that Labour are too busy telling everyone what the SNP aren't going to do to actually formulate some policies of their own. Jack McConnell was on Newsnight Scotland last night getting an uncomfortable grilling from the host. Sad thing was, he was dealing hopelessly with questions he's been asked by a number of different interviewers, by replying that "Ah, but the SNP's figures don't add up like ours..."

Interviewer plays along...)"OK Jack. What are your figures..."

"Well, less than 11000 people will be in the new higher council tax band",

"Yes Jack. That's because there are only 11000 people in the current highest council tax band."

"600000 pensioners will have their bills cut by 25%. The SNP can't afford that."

"OK Jack. How can you afford it...?"

"Well, less than 11000 people will be in the new higher council tax band rate"

"That's not what i asked Jack. How can anyone take you seriously, when all you do is give vague figures. The very thing that you are lambasting Alex Salmond for..."

And so on, and so forth.

The Lib Dems will form a coalition with anyone other than the SNP. Unless they win, in which case they'll join them as well.

 
At 9:52 pm , Blogger Finnieston Crane said...

Paddy, you say firstly:

"So?"

I'm not sure what your point is; throw me a bone.

Then you say:

"Why not? Sir Robert Menzies of Australia didn't see any conflict with leading an independent Australia."

Is that the same Sir Robert Menzies who is reputed to have had designs on ousting Winston Churchill and, indeed, replacing him? You seem to be saying because he thought it ok, then I should. Is that the level of your argument? Clearly I'd also think him a fool.

You conclude:

"Obviously. But who said they were republicans?"

No one. I was drawing an analogy to exemplify their hypocrisy. Are either of them in favour of retaining the Queen as head of state? I know some Scots Nazis are.

 

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